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			<description>&lt;p&gt;CapCon 2025 Thoughts Thread&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Obviously relocating the con to a different metro (even temporarily) changes the value proposition, especially for volunteers, but no doubt for most any of us who drive to it.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&lt;p&gt;This is especially so as it is moving to the last metro on the eastern edge of a sparsely populated area (truly flyover country), away from the very central (unofficial) regional capital of Flyover Country USA. I imagine there will be comparatively few drivers coming in from points due west of the Twin Cities as compared to the host of us driving to Chicagoland from various other Great Lakes and Midwest states (and other population centers in points East), but who knows. Maybe it makes it more drivable from the ABDL SW capital of Colorado, but it would seem to be as much further north as it is west?&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&lt;p&gt;I suspect it also will effect air travellers given moving to a one airport metro from a two airport megacity/regional capital. It necessarily has to be more expensive, though at least it is a hub for some airlines.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Clearly, a proposed move across the country was the final straw that killed the other nascent Midwest/Great Lakes event before its 3rd run, despite other headwinds and conflicts with various detractors (first simply Internet shitbirds of the YABDL and r/ABDL ilk who insisted they were &amp;quot;doin&amp;#39; it wrong&amp;quot; without attending), then with other detractors who has meaningfully contributed to the first and second runs (and thus were in a position to be more informed and involved), and the sad end that was the eventual TC style &amp;quot;take the money and run&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Naturally, the CapCon ownership (I wish I could say &amp;quot;CapCon organizing committee&amp;quot;, but it is clearly a business) are in a different (much stronger) state with their event, both in terms of attendee interest/demand, volunteer corps, and presumably community good will. Hopefully that also means a better financial position.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&lt;p&gt;As to fall instead of spring, I suppose it has little impact outside the world of education/academia, but may impact back to school time for parents with biokids in the nest?&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&lt;p&gt;I do wonder about listing the event weekend as starting on a Friday, and if the event will be Wednesday to Monday, still, or Friday to Wednesday or something. Event length obviously does directly impact value proposition.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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			<source:markdown>CapCon 2025 Thoughts Thread&#10;&#10;&#10;&#10;Obviously relocating the con to a different metro (even temporarily) changes the value proposition, especially for volunteers, but no doubt for most any of us who drive to it.&#10;&#10;&#10;&#10;This is especially so as it is moving to the last metro on the eastern edge of a sparsely populated area (truly flyover country), away from the very central (unofficial) regional capital of Flyover Country USA. I imagine there will be comparatively few drivers coming in from points due west of the Twin Cities as compared to the host of us driving to Chicagoland from various other Great Lakes and Midwest states (and other population centers in points East), but who knows. Maybe it makes it more drivable from the ABDL SW capital of Colorado, but it would seem to be as much further north as it is west?&#10;&#10;&#10;&#10;I suspect it also will effect air travellers given moving to a one airport metro from a two airport megacity/regional capital. It necessarily has to be more expensive, though at least it is a hub for some airlines.&#10;&#10;&#10;&#10;Clearly, a proposed move across the country was the final straw that killed the other nascent Midwest/Great Lakes event before its 3rd run, despite other headwinds and conflicts with various detractors (first simply Internet shitbirds of the YABDL and r/ABDL ilk who insisted they were &quot;doin' it wrong&quot; without attending), then with other detractors who has meaningfully contributed to the first and second runs (and thus were in a position to be more informed and involved), and the sad end that was the eventual TC style &quot;take the money and run&quot;.&#10;&#10;&#10;&#10;Naturally, the CapCon ownership (I wish I could say &quot;CapCon organizing committee&quot;, but it is clearly a business) are in a different (much stronger) state with their event, both in terms of attendee interest/demand, volunteer corps, and presumably community good will. Hopefully that also means a better financial position.&#10;&#10;&#10;&#10;As to fall instead of spring, I suppose it has little impact outside the world of education/academia, but may impact back to school time for parents with biokids in the nest?&#10;&#10;&#10;&#10;I do wonder about listing the event weekend as starting on a Friday, and if the event will be Wednesday to Monday, still, or Friday to Wednesday or something. Event length obviously does directly impact value proposition.</source:markdown>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;CapCon 2025 Thoughts Thread&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Obviously relocating the con to a different metro (even temporarily) changes the value proposition, especially for volunteers, but no doubt for most any of us who drive to it.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&lt;p&gt;This is especially so as it is moving to the last metro on the eastern edge of a sparsely populated area (truly flyover country), away from the very central (unofficial) regional capital of Flyover Country USA. I imagine there will be comparatively few drivers coming in from points due west of the Twin Cities as compared to the host of us driving to Chicagoland from various other Great Lakes and Midwest states (and other population centers in points East), but who knows. Maybe it makes it more drivable from the ABDL SW capital of Colorado, but it would seem to be as much further north as it is west?&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&lt;p&gt;I suspect it also will effect air travellers given moving to a one airport metro from a two airport megacity/regional capital. It necessarily has to be more expensive, though at least it is a hub for some airlines.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Clearly, a proposed move across the country was the final straw that killed the other nascent Midwest/Great Lakes event before its 3rd run, despite other headwinds and conflicts with various detractors (first simply Internet shitbirds of the YABDL and r/ABDL ilk who insisted they were &amp;quot;doin&amp;#39; it wrong&amp;quot; without attending), then with other detractors who has meaningfully contributed to the first and second runs (and thus were in a position to be more informed and involved), and the sad end that was the eventual TC style &amp;quot;take the money and run&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Naturally, the CapCon ownership (I wish I could say &amp;quot;CapCon organizing committee&amp;quot;, but it is clearly a business) are in a different (much stronger) state with their event, both in terms of attendee interest/demand, volunteer corps, and presumably community good will. Hopefully that also means a better financial position.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&lt;p&gt;As to fall instead of spring, I suppose it has little impact outside the world of education/academia, but may impact back to school time for parents with biokids in the nest?&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&lt;p&gt;I do wonder about listing the event weekend as starting on a Friday, and if the event will be Wednesday to Monday, still, or Friday to Wednesday or something. Event length obviously does directly impact value proposition.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Sep 2024 12:15:12 GMT</pubDate>
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			<source:markdown>CapCon 2025 Thoughts Thread&#10;&#10;&#10;&#10;Obviously relocating the con to a different metro (even temporarily) changes the value proposition, especially for volunteers, but no doubt for most any of us who drive to it.&#10;&#10;&#10;&#10;This is especially so as it is moving to the last metro on the eastern edge of a sparsely populated area (truly flyover country), away from the very central (unofficial) regional capital of Flyover Country USA. I imagine there will be comparatively few drivers coming in from points due west of the Twin Cities as compared to the host of us driving to Chicagoland from various other Great Lakes and Midwest states (and other population centers in points East), but who knows. Maybe it makes it more drivable from the ABDL SW capital of Colorado, but it would seem to be as much further north as it is west?&#10;&#10;&#10;&#10;I suspect it also will effect air travellers given moving to a one airport metro from a two airport megacity/regional capital. It necessarily has to be more expensive, though at least it is a hub for some airlines.&#10;&#10;&#10;&#10;Clearly, a proposed move across the country was the final straw that killed the other nascent Midwest/Great Lakes event before its 3rd run, despite other headwinds and conflicts with various detractors (first simply Internet shitbirds of the YABDL and r/ABDL ilk who insisted they were &quot;doin' it wrong&quot; without attending), then with other detractors who has meaningfully contributed to the first and second runs (and thus were in a position to be more informed and involved), and the sad end that was the eventual TC style &quot;take the money and run&quot;.&#10;&#10;&#10;&#10;Naturally, the CapCon ownership (I wish I could say &quot;CapCon organizing committee&quot;, but it is clearly a business) are in a different (much stronger) state with their event, both in terms of attendee interest/demand, volunteer corps, and presumably community good will. Hopefully that also means a better financial position.&#10;&#10;&#10;&#10;As to fall instead of spring, I suppose it has little impact outside the world of education/academia, but may impact back to school time for parents with biokids in the nest?&#10;&#10;&#10;&#10;I do wonder about listing the event weekend as starting on a Friday, and if the event will be Wednesday to Monday, still, or Friday to Wednesday or something. Event length obviously does directly impact value proposition.</source:markdown>
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